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derekdainton
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 Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 17:13:23
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| Can someone clarify the position re traffic in Church Road? Some residents seem to have adopted the practice of parking in the road, thus completely blocking it. Has this legality? |
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GrumpyGirl
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 18:16:53
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Church Road is an adopted road by WSCC, hence they have control over any parking or traffic regulations that apply there. Suggest you contact their Highways & Transport Dept on 01243 642105 or e-mail highwaysandtransporthq@westsussex.gov.uk
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derekdainton
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 18:47:23
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| Don't really care enough to get involved with bureaucracy. Just thought someone might know. |
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neil
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 Aug 2009 : 21:02:36
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| Church Road has signs indicating road is only intended for access to the properties in that road. It is not a cut-through. |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 07:03:04
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I understand that. That's what the sign says. And I don't use it as a cut through, useful as it would be.
My question was does that give people the legal right to block it or are they just being awkward. |
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BRAM
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Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 10:58:27
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| Sounds like people power with residents acting to curb unwanted intruders despite adopted status.Might be worth trying on BG. |
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jammer
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Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 11:14:00
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| This sort of mentality is devastating to emergency services who need access. Think people before encouraging STUPID behaviour! |
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BRAM
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Posted - 09 Aug 2009 : 13:38:57
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Yes,it would be nice if everybody considered the other person & the general good of society,as I am sure the inconsiderate non resident drivers (both individuals & commercial) who choose to carelessly park cars & lorries in front of peoples property(on both roads & pavements),clogging up roads & damaging paving slabs, without concern for the emergency services,disabled pedestrians & drivers or indeed the residents,always do.
I have previously had a situation where a non resident parked, blocking my car & when I needed to leave urgently was unable to find the driver.
Perhaps the residents of Church Road have such experiences & are sick of trying to get something done.
I have spent half a century trying to be considerate but from current attitudes that seem to prevail in our society I sometimes wonder whether the saying " if you can't beat them then join them" might be more appropriate. |
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jammer
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 07:08:54
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Sorry Bram Cant agree,
Im afraid i still believe that two wrongs do not make a right.
How can you justify the deliberate risk to safety on the grounds of being fed up and 'cant beat them join them'
sorry but that is absurd
Yes its annoying and surely we shoud be working towads erradicating this tye of mentatlity not saying oh sod it everybody else is doing it so i will too?
Maybe I am just way of the mark with this but its my personal view that there is still room for leading by example and polite requests for compliance.
Sorry!
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BRAM
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 10:13:44
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jammer
Yes, of course you are right & my jaded view was hopefully a blip, but I can't help thinking that if those people who purport to administer our society led by good example then this might change behaviour & the me,me,me attitudes that are so common these days. |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 11:39:55
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I'm not quite sure about this topic or where it is going.
It is against the law for anybody to drive a motor vehicle or a motorbike down Church Road unless they are attending, delivering, or visiting any property in that road (see Highway Code). However, it's not a private road so it's probably against the law to block it.
But the only people who should be concerned about blocking the road is someone who lives there or somebody who needs access to one of the properties. Are there any readers who are affected and what are their views? |
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BRAM
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 12:07:15
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Neil
The point,I suppose,is that whether a road is adopted or not traffic enforcement requires the will by the local authorities to do something when regulations are ignored, otherwise it is pointless putting signs up. |
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neil
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 12:37:55
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Fine, I understand that, but this topic was specifically about Chuch Road before it was "highjacked" by the BG road adoption protesters, for which there is a separate topic.
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derekdainton
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 12:40:54
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| It's going nowhere. My original question was one about legality. We're no closer to an answer but never mind. It's not that important. Just a bit of relief from the circulatory BG saga. |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 14:16:49
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The sign at the entrance to Church Road - a motor vehicle and motorbike within a circle - is a road traffic Order. Underneath is a qualification "Except for access". This means it's against the law for through traffic to enter the road.
As it is still an adopted public road, it must surely be an offence to block it. I do personally know some residents who park their vehicles tightly outside their houses in the road to allow non-prohibited vehicles to get through. |
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