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deb8
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 Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 19:17:43
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Patty
I hope you dont mind my asking you this question, I am not familiar with any of the other APC members.
Have the APC every raised the issue of WSCC looking into making a new entrance to Angmering School from Roundstone Lane, incorporating enough parking to last for say the next 15 years.
I am led to believe that when The Dell was built approximately 200-300 students attended Angmering School. From the Angmering School website, I just found a count number for 2004 amounting to 1453 students and I am sure, by now, that figure has increased again. Apart from a 'drop off' point at Bramley Green, not enough account has been made for more parking spaces to deal with the increase of students and staff. Whilst I understand there will be some extra spaces beside the new library, if you tally the number of cars parked outside the school, and well into The Dell, I doubt much of a dent will be made and, come September, I have no doubt there will be more.
We have heard that there may be further building in Angmering and, if that is so, the school numbers can only go up. If more building work is needed at the school, then the year's disruption at Bramley Green may go on ad infinitum.
Isn't it time that a new entrance together with parking facilities and a safe pick up point was designed from Roundstone Lane. The school would then have it's own entrance should further extension work be planned.
I am hoping that WSCC have money in their acounts as a result of not building the school near Bramley Green??
I fear if nothing is done soon the haphazard parking, especially at the beginning and end of the school day, may have tragic consequences. The school has long outgrown it's original entrance.
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patty
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 21:54:45
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deb8
Thank you for the question.
Short answer is I really do not know.
My personal thought is you make some good points, although I cannot see where in Roundstone Lane an entrance could be made as that would mean, I would think, going in through Bramley Green - much the same way as the builders trucks are due to go, with this current building.
Certainly better parking and drop off ponts would be an asset to the school and the village as a whole.
This is the sort of question that I am sure would be welcomed at a Full Parish Council meeting, such as the one coming up this Monday at 7.30pm in the Church Hall. There would be more Councillors there to answer you and also, hopefully, Councillors from Arun and West Sussex who may have more answers.
If you cannot make this, please feel free to email the office direct on angmering.pc@lineone.net and they will look into it for you.
Sorry I cannot be of any more help on this one, but do let me know of any progress on this and perhaps keep this web page updated.
it would be interesting to know what other people think.
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any comments and views listed above are those of myself personally and not as a Parish Councillor, and in no way reflect opinions of the Parish Council or any other professional bodies |
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deb8
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 22:32:09
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Patty
Once again, thanks for your prompt reply.
I realise that I have suggested Roundstone Lane and I actually meant to suggest Roundstone by Pass. Apologies to everyone on BG whose blood pressure increased. My objective was to try and ease the disruption to both Bramley Green and The Dell, not to increase the load to Bramley Green.
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if only
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 22:39:44
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Hi, you have lost me deb8, when you say Roundstone bypass.
Do you mean the a259 - main Littlehampton - Worthing road, or do you mean the new Bypass.
So glad you did not mean Roundstone Lane, I dont think this site could have coped with a few hundred pages on that!! |
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Mr Angry
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 22:44:14
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I'm guessing the A259 - seeing as an entrance to the school from the Angmering bypass would spill out on Roundstone lane!
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deb8
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 22:50:50
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If only
I put my hands up and admit I am hopeless with road names. I checked on internet Street Map of Angmering and the road I meant is called 'Roundstone by Pass'. For clarification strip of road where the footbridge for Angmering School is located, the new traffic lights have been placed and walkway to Angmering School is located.
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if only
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 22:56:06
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Thanks for that deb8.
Its probably me being a bit thick as usual.
I never knew that bit was called that, I have always referred to it as the A259 or the main Littlehampton Road.
But ok, know where you are now.
Sounds intriguing - dont know if the authorities would allow an entrance straight on and off a main road like that ......or is that a stupid thing to say??
I am sure all schools I can think of, even if situated on main road, have their entrances placed off the main road.
Waiting to be corrected though.
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Mr C
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 23:07:41
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deb8's idea makes a lot of sense.
There are 2 large piece of 'waste land' either side of the pedestrian crossing on the A259. Either of those would make ideal drop off or parking areas for the school. Who owns these pieces of land?
As for access of the main road, there would be plenty of room to put in an entrance for cars heading east along the A259. Any cars heading West would just need to drive down to the roundabout where the footbridge is and then come back on themselves.
Not sure how this would affect the flow of traffic along that stretch of road though, as it is already very slow in the mornings and evenings. |
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if only
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Posted - 07 Aug 2009 : 23:12:25
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Chucking out time could be ok, but mornings could be a nightmare - although it may just miss the main rush hour.
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deb8
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Posted - 10 Aug 2009 : 19:20:13
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Apologies Patty
Judging by the response, there doesn't seem much point in raising this issue at the Parish meeting tonight.
I sincerely thought a new entrance road, from 'A259' to Angmering School, would eleviate traffic problems on The Dell, Bramley Green and within the village as a whole.
I clearly got that wrong !!
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neil
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Posted - 13 Aug 2009 : 11:31:49
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deb8, wrote: quote:
I am led to believe that when The Dell was built approximately 200-300 students attended Angmering School. From the Angmering School website, I just found a count number for 2004 amounting to 1453 students and I am sure, by now, that figure has increased again.
Just to clarify things, when The Angmering School was first built, it was planned that there would be 1000+ students there. The number 200-300 represented the first year's intake. It grew by 200+ per year for several years until all school years were populated. Of course, there has been expansion since which has increased the number first envisaged.
With the school parking in the first section of Greenwood Drive, passing is difficult at the best of times, but almost impossible at school coming and going times. Parish & District Councillor Bicknell has been looking at the problem and has had some suggestions for improving the parking. One of these is to widen the road by cutting away at the ample verge on the south side of the road which would allow vehicles to pass each other without difficulty. Parking spaces could also be increased if "chevron" parking was introduced. Whether WSCC will listen, of course, is another matter! |
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deb8
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Posted - 13 Aug 2009 : 12:55:20
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Neil
Thank you for your input. I doubt that the planners (at that time) ever envisaged that a number of students would be bringing cars to school. I think that, as the parking creeps further and further up Greenwood Drive, parents are forced to jostle for spaces and have abandoned all cares about double parking. The situation isn't helped by the fact that a number of students now sit on the pavement with their legs in the road or alternativelky walk in the middle of the road through the Dell, with no consideration for traffic. This is risky behaviour when views are restricted.
Some of the parking is beyond inconsiderate (on corners and up on pavements) and woe betide anyone brave enough to ask a parent to reconsider their parking .... it is a sensitive issue for all concerned. Both parents and residents deserve better.
Let's not forget that we also get the 'football' parking at the weekends.
The reality is that, no matter how wide you make the road, the traffic volume is now too high - the school really needs a new entrance, preferably one which doesn't adversely impact on The Dell residents or Bramley Green residents.
It is encouraging to hear that Councillor Bicknell is investigating the problem. With a new term not too far away , it will be interesting to hear his initiatives. |
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