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Robinf
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Bluebell
Average Member
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 23 Jan 2014 : 10:37:58
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The planners for the pinch points would have been West Sussex Highways but I agree with Luckyduck, arrogance seems to be part of the job description!
Incidentally the application for the 7 houses on the west side of Roundstone Lane is back on the Arun website with a different title, Farrowfield Farm.
Looks like the same old documents though! |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 05 Feb 2014 : 08:16:02
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The Parish Council have produced a thorough response on the proposed Roundstone Lane developments. For that, they are to be commended. It's been a long time coming, and could be seen as a belated attempt to restore the credibility of the Council and its Chairman, but let's be generous. Whether it will make the slightest bit of difference to the attitude and stance of ADC's planners remains to be seen.
The apparent fixation with A259 dualling is continually mystifying. There would be undoubted benefit for those travelling East and West but can anyone explain the benefits to the village? As any motorist will know, getting out of Station Road or Roundstone Lane at peak times is difficult, the only gaps being facilitated, certainly at the Station Road roundabout, by the need for traffic on the A259 to slow for the single carriageway Eastbound.
There is also reference in the letter to a 'Left In, Left Out' solution to any link from the development to the A280. Presumably the 'Left In' element is designed to avoid traffic coming south on the A280 turning across the flow from the South. But if it means having to go down to the A259 roundabout and coming back up before turning left into the development, well, good luck with that.
As for the provision of sporting facilities, will residents really want, if this wet weather is to be an ongoing feature of our climate, a muddy football/rugby pitch?
What the document certainly does is reveal the questions about the plan that must be addressed. However, those who attended the recent meeting at the Rugby Club will know that there are precious few answers forthcoming.
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
553 Posts |
Posted - 19 Feb 2014 : 14:29:53
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| According to the West Sussex Gazette Planning Application A/10/14 is for Worthing Rugby Club to place a Portacabin on the plot for a nursery for 3 years. |
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CatNip
New Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 19 Feb 2014 : 17:23:43
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Originally posted by roosterbri
According to the West Sussex Gazette Planning Application A/10/14 is for Worthing Rugby Club to place a Portacabin on the plot for a nursery for 3 years.
Does anyone else find that (as again this afternoon) the ADC Planning website is rather frequently unavailable for search? |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
2623 Posts |
Posted - 19 Feb 2014 : 18:48:17
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This is a Planning Application for a Portacabin for a childcare nursery and not an agricultural nursery.
ADC Planning searches and resulting display of documentation working OK for me this evening. |
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Bluebell
Average Member
United Kingdom
99 Posts |
Posted - 26 Feb 2014 : 20:37:37
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Barratts are back! Reduced housing from 150 to 139 (big deal!) For details see
A/82/12/ on the Arun planning site. |
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Bluebell
Average Member
United Kingdom
99 Posts |
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luckyduck
Moderator
United Kingdom
169 Posts |
Posted - 02 Mar 2014 : 17:02:28
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| Barratts have got fed up waiting, and are calling Arun's bluff. It seems the developers cannot agree with each other on building an agreed approach, so being the typical bully boys they are, Barratts are going it alone, and will argue with anyone and everything in their path to corporate profitability, regadrdless of the costs to either the local community or the folks who buy their houses. |
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Robinf
Senior Member
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Posted - 02 Mar 2014 : 18:15:09
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For anyone who wishes to make their views known about Barratt's latest strong arm tactics and who have not received the latest Save Angmering Village News Letter, you can visit Save Angmering Village Face Book page (https://www.facebook.com/pages/Save-Angmering-Village-from-more-houses/124415027577151?fref=ts) where details can be found about this subject and others relative to the current miserable goings on down at the Town Hall and how the tail appears to be wagging the dog.
As SAV news letter states, it is important that as many as possible send ADC their objection to this new Barratt's application. Your previous objection was against 150 dwellings. If you don’t write again, it could be construed that you don’t object to 139 dwellings! Both the Council and the developers must be made aware that local concern has not been diluted nor has the community grown weary. SAV therefore urges those of you who wrote Letters of Objection to the original application to repeat the process. I've done mine - what are you waiting for?
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Eliza
Junior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 04 Mar 2014 : 16:29:25
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Robinf
Senior Member
105 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2014 : 11:12:09
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It seems that our esteemed APC Councillor Cooper is now Vice Chair of ADC in addition to his position of sitting on Rustington PC!! Three hats no less.
With three hats to wear, which one do you think he is going to be wearing more often, or more to the point which one is he going to prefer to wear in preference to the others? I would suggest that both Angmering and Rustington residents expectations of Cllr Cooper’s attention to their issues of concern are going to be more diluted than they already are; he will be too busy down at the Town Hall abstaining.
Clearly Cllr Cooper must be in some way related to the late great Tommy Cooper, who provided us with one of the great comedy sketches of his time – The Hat Sketch. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKblP3_EkM0. Unfortunately, Cllr Cooper’s three hat trick is not going to be so funny for the communities he is supposedly serving.
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Chuckle Brother
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 09 Mar 2014 : 18:23:33
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I understand that there was a very bitter debate at Arun over the appointment of the next Vice Chairman (Chairman elect).
The ruling Conservatives proposed Cllr. Andy Cooper who has not even completed 12 months as a district councillor. The Lib Dems proposed Cllr. Sir James Walsh a hugely respected councillor at county and district level with something like 30 years of experience.
It was, of course, a case of anything will do, as long as it’s Conservative.
By selecting a relative novice as Vice Chairman (Chairman elect) the Conservative Group revealed a lack of respect for the position of Chairman and, alarmingly for them, that they have a shortage of suitable candidates! |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
2623 Posts |
Posted - 09 Mar 2014 : 18:44:18
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Robinf
Senior Member
105 Posts |
Posted - 10 Mar 2014 : 07:22:00
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Desperate times require desperate measures.
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Originally posted by Chuckle Brother
I understand that there was a very bitter debate at Arun over the appointment of the next Vice Chairman (Chairman elect).
The ruling Conservatives proposed Cllr. Andy Cooper who has not even completed 12 months as a district councillor. The Lib Dems proposed Cllr. Sir James Walsh a hugely respected councillor at county and district level with something like 30 years of experience.
It was, of course, a case of anything will do, as long as it’s Conservative.
By selecting a relative novice as Vice Chairman (Chairman elect) the Conservative Group revealed a lack of respect for the position of Chairman and, alarmingly for them, that they have a shortage of suitable candidates!
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2014 : 08:19:20
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| The machinations of Arun District Council are akin to a Medici court! |
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
2623 Posts |
Posted - 11 Mar 2014 : 09:58:02
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Originally posted by Chuckle Brother on 1 December 2013
I have just seen the comment on the SAV web site about Councillor Cooper abstaining - I noticed this too!
If I recollect correctly the vote on Councillor Bicknell's amendment to include Ford in the strategic allocations was 5 for and 8 against/abstain.
My guess is that Councillor Cooper's reward will be a seat in East Preston or Rustington in 2015 - his work in Angmering is almost done.
It seems that Cllr Cooper is getting an even earlier reward for his treachery for abstaining. We all wondered what he would be getting out of having pressure put on him by the Conservative Party. Now we know - Vice-Chair of ADC - and with so little experience as a District Councillor! It stinks! And you can bet that Teflon Man had a major hand in this! |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 11 Mar 2014 : 13:18:50
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Those interested in the daily pressures and excitement of life as a multi-role Councillor should follow @AndyCRustington on Twitter. You can communicate directly with him and express your gratitude for his sterling work on behalf of the community.
As his Twitter profile reads "Family man trying to make the future better". For whom one might ask? |
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NickR60
Average Member
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Posted - 11 Mar 2014 : 19:49:08
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Originally posted by derekdainton
Those interested in the daily pressures and excitement of life as a multi-role Councillor should follow @AndyCRustington on Twitter. You can communicate directly with him and express your gratitude for his sterling work on behalf of the community.
As his Twitter profile reads "Family man trying to make the future better". For whom one might ask?
You can follow him on Twitter, but whether he replies to Tweets concerning his 'change of heart' is quite another matter!!! (I speak from experience). |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 12 Mar 2014 : 07:30:07
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
42 Posts |
Posted - 14 Mar 2014 : 23:01:20
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Looks like it's all back on again!
I guess when they said flood concerns had caused them to rethink what they really meant was that they were just waiting for things to dry out a little!
See http://www.arun.gov.uk/main.cfm?type=LOCALDEVELOPMENTFR for the agenda for the 27th March meeting of the LPSC.
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Robinf
Senior Member
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Posted - 15 Mar 2014 : 11:47:01
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Originally posted by Chuckle Brother
Looks like it's all back on again!
I guess when they said flood concerns had caused them to rethink what they really meant was that they were just waiting for things to dry out a little!
See http://www.arun.gov.uk/main.cfm?type=LOCALDEVELOPMENTFR for the agenda for the 27th March meeting of the LPSC.
The super glossy spin Mr. Meecham has put on his piece is truly a master piece. He notes extensive public consultations with the developers, evidence based studies, and a members workshop at which the planning officers gave “no advice or opinions” etc., etc., blah, blah, blah. It’s called, going through the motions, or in modern day parlance, ’ticking boxes’.
This would all be very good if it was not for the fact that the basic premise on which his whole report is founded i.e. that the area needs and average of 580 homes per year for the plan, is considered by many to be flawed.
This number has frequently been contested by local communities and one on which the council has been regularly challenged. To date they have steadfastly ignored the concerns of the communities about the derivation and therefore the validity of this number.
With Mr. Meecham’s veiled threats that if that his recommendations are not approved further delays will occur, he and the ADC have arrived at a very pale solution to the issue of housing allocations and numbers.
It seems this conservative led council are taking the same rather tardy approach to housing issues as they recently took in appointing the new vice chair of ADC (Cllr Cooper); anything/anyone will do – just approve it no matter what.
Things will remain the same if they don’t change. |
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seagull
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Mar 2014 : 14:46:44
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| I noticed that Barratt's re-submitted their revised application to Arun before the deadline for receiving comments, following their public exhibition. As you say Robinf, they don't listen to public opinions, it's just a tick boxing exercise. It's a pity no-one takes into account the comments made by our MP, Nick Herbert. He seems the only one with any common sense on this planning fiasco. |
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roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 24 Mar 2014 : 13:14:28
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Seems to be a lot of surveying going on in the fields behind Garden Close/Woodlands Close and St Margarets School
Suspect the land belongs to Persimmons. |
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Chuckle Brother
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United Kingdom
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seagull
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2014 : 14:56:33
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I see that the Arun District Councillors voted to build 600 houses in Angmering and concrete over a large area
around Eastergate/Westergate, just as the Arun planning officers wanted! So much for democracy. On May 22nd we have the ideal opportunity, in the European elections, to tell the main political parties what we think of them.
If we all vote UKIP we will frighten them to death. We can then vote UKIP again in May next year, in the District Council elections and get rid of this useless bunch of councillors. WE could then make Arun policy based on what the electors want and not what the officers want! |
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westsussexbluenose
Average Member
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Posted - 01 May 2014 : 17:00:03
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is it really that much of a surprise?  take a count of the supermarkets/food retailers,superstores which have/are sprung up along the vicinity. There is no way on this earth that Tescos, M&S, Dunelm, Sainsbury's and ASDA plus whatever else is in the pipeline would have a presence unless they could rely on the footfall necessary to cover their investments - take a look at how much Broadbridge Heath has changed over the years. I remember when the Tesco superstore went in next to what was a quiet village not unlike Angmering was years ago. If you want to know what Angmering and the surrounding area will look like take a drive up the A24 and marvel at the Broadbridge Heath development . You can vote for whoever you want to, it aint going to change a thing./aquote:
Originally posted by seagull
I see that the Arun District Councillors voted to build 600 houses in Angmering and concrete over a large area
around Eastergate/Westergate, just as the Arun planning officers wanted! So much for democracy. On May 22nd we have the ideal opportunity, in the European elections, to tell the main political parties what we think of them.
If we all vote UKIP we will frighten them to death. We can then vote UKIP again in May next year, in the District Council elections and get rid of this useless bunch of councillors. WE could then make Arun policy based on what the electors want and not what the officers want!
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derekdainton
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Posted - 01 May 2014 : 17:02:52
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After some hours of deliberation ADC Councillors did what was expected of them and voted for 600 houses in Angmering. Whilst there was vociferous objection from those Councillors representing the three villages - Barnham, Eastergate and Westergate, who are being saddled with 2000 houses, there was virtually nothing from our own village representatives. Councillor Cooper, having managed to secure the position of Vice-Chair of the Council, said nothing and did not participate in the vote. Very crafty, but to be expected.
To his credit, Nick Herbert not only posted a very strong objection to the proposed developments but also spoke very articulately at a rally preceding the full Council meeting.
The next stage is consideration of the three current planning applications affecting Roundstone Lane at the Development Control Committee meeting on May 8. |
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Chuckle Brother
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United Kingdom
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Chuckle Brother
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 01 May 2014 : 23:09:50
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By the way I do feel dreadfully sorry for the people of Angmering. Your councillors were woeful, but then so were ours!
Cllr Maconachie was on holiday (strategic?). I've never heard him speak up for BEW in any of the debates.
Cllr Charles and Cllr Mrs Goad put forward an absolutely inept amendment which anyone could see would fail. Hopeless!
Cllr Cooper took over from Cllr Maconachie as vice chairman (strategic?) and did not speak for Angmering in the debate - though he did vote against the recommendation.
Cllr Bicknell made a couple of points for Angmering but was a lonely voice rather lost in the debate.
Cllr Wensley, of course, had nothing to say for Angmering.
All 6 were hopeless in one way or another! |
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deb8
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neil
Forum Owner / Moderator
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2014 : 20:04:42
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After attending the rally, I went home and watched the whole meeting on the webcast. I became more and more incensed as time went by as the Angmering councillors really did nothing to challenge the proposed 600 Angmering houses. I was sure that at least one of them would have a bit of a rail about traffic on the A259 as an absolute minimum, but no. Only Cllr Elkins (Ferring) mentioned the appalling local traffic situation but received no support from our three. I was really angry.
When it came to the recorded vote on proposal 1(b) - the Angmering houses - the webcast sound failed and I still do not know how our three councillors voted - only the final result. I was pretty disgusted that had Cllr Wensley voted "FOR" the 2000 BEW homes!
Just wait until next May!
And what happened to the delivery of Nick Herbert's letter to all the councillors before the meeting. Was it deliberately withheld from the non-Conservative members? The Chairman (Cllr Chapman) looked pretty sheepish on a camera close-up on the webcast!
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Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 02 May 2014 : 20:29:44
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Neil's posting above makes for some pretty unedifying reading. It was a pity that due to other commitments I was unable to attend the rally with my husband. Our Parish Councillors are a sorry lot who are unable to stand up for the residents. Nick Herbert has supported the efforts of Save Angmering Village, the residents and the residents of the three villages in all our efforts to halt any more building on green belt land and to preserve the spaces between the villages but he must surely wonder given the "wishy washy" actions of our A.P.C. whether he is just wasting his time! Despite vigorous local opposition the A.D.C. are forging ahead in their nefarious plans for concrete over the whole of their patch with scant regard to local opinion.
Can anyone tell us what it will take to repel these avaricious Builders whose only concern is maximise their Shareholders' profits as is evidenced by Barratt's current price on the FTSE index? They are in no-way concerned with the social implications of their actions and despite the valiant attempts of our own Member of Parliament, our Government would appear to be unwilling or unable to prevent the rape of our English countryside. |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 03 May 2014 : 07:53:16
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| Think the Clerk forgot? to switch on her mic when recording the vote. |
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Chuckle Brother
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Posted - 03 May 2014 : 08:38:20
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| I don't think Herbert's letter was circulated to the opposition members at Arun - he obviously felt that they were irrelevant. How wrong he was! |
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derekdainton
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Posted - 03 May 2014 : 12:59:51
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| Don't imagine it was Nick Herbert's decision to only circulate letter to Conservative Councillors. There would have been no point in that as the majority he needed to sway represented the other parties. Suspect it more likely that ADC were playing their usual 'fun and games'. |
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seagull
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 May 2014 : 13:08:40
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Pansy, it's the District councillors who are a sorry lot who don't stand up for the residents. Angmering Parish Councillors are totally against these developments. You could always buy a few Barratt's shares and embarrass them at their next AGM.
Nick Herbert's email was sent to ALL Arun Councillors and all Parish Chairmen, I am told. |
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Rosebud
Average Member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 May 2014 : 13:14:38
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| Don't know if this has anything to do the new houses, but there was what looked like surveying going on today on the roundabout on the A259 / A280. |
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luckyduck
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United Kingdom
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Posted - 08 May 2014 : 17:13:59
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| Looks like we have been totally stuffed by Arun, who voted through all the housing application east of Roundstone Lane this afternoon - if you want to continue living in a village, it looks like we will have to leave Angmering - shame, it was a beautiful place to live - but Barratts will ensure it will no longer be beautiful, and Arun and our councillors obviously do not care. |
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