| Author |
 Topic  |
|
|
jammer
Senior Member
172 Posts |
 Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 08:44:33
|
Just a straw poll really, but does anyone else think that the roundabout at station road has become sufficiently busy to justify traffic lights, much in the same way as the roundabout at Broadwater?
It has become a complete free for all in the mornings and sounds like a New York intersection with all the horns blaring.
Not only that but I have seen several near misses with cars and saw one unfortunate cyclist get knocked off there last year. I'm sure some order could make this a safer and more functional junction.
If there was a consensus then how would a community go about asking for said traffic lights.
Alternatively is the feeling that this should not happen?
Just interested in all of your views. |
..//.//..//..//.. |
|
|
BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 10:26:40
|
| Peak time lights would be good. |
 |
|
|
angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 10:41:05
|
I think if motorists can't observe priorities then the only answer is traffic lights.
I would like to see them first at the Roundstone level crossing where motorists routinely ignore the Give Ways Signs and road markings. |
|
|
|
BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 12:31:18
|
| It's not a case of failing to observe priorities, just traffic management, it's very frustrating waiting to get on or across the 259 sometimes. |
|
|
|
240felicia
Senior Member
172 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 14:41:31
|
ironic in a time when in america there is a trend for removing traffic lights in preference for european style roundabouts
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-13863498
there is always going to be an inevitable slowing of traffic when 2 lanes merge into one on a roundabout, i can't see how traffic lights could improve things, people just can't have the courtesy and common sense to drive properly and lights wont change that...
additionally, it's actually not that major an issue, there are places where i get stuck in traffic where i would much rather funds went, for example the a27 needs bypasses in various places, much more of a pain than the odd wait at the roundabout...
so my thinking is that it wouldn't be a great idea |
Edited by - 240felicia on 22 Sep 2011 14:43:17 |
|
|
|
angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 17:40:09
|
Frustration is something that you have to deal with driving.
If you don't have the right of way then you have to wait until you do. |
|
|
|
BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 17:52:02
|
| Like when a light goes green as per the Broadwater example and many more around the area that never got as bad as this one, sometimes the traffic is backed up to the second pinch point. Personally I just never go near the place at school times but sometimes it's almost as bad at other peak times, and as for the roundstone crossing, I never go near it full stop, it's a nightmare. |
|
|
|
DEGOO
Average Member
United Kingdom
79 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 18:46:24
|
| I avoid that roundabout at peak times if at all possible, and would avoid it even more if there were traffic lights. All roads are getting stupidly busy and all the new houses that the councils are agreeing too are only going to make things worse, so who knows what the answer is! With regards to the cyclist getting knocked off.... use the cycle path!! Drives me potty when I see them on Station Road and the A259 where the cycle paths were put in just for them, not that I don't have sympathy for the poor cyclist you understand!! |
|
|
|
patty
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
738 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 22:40:38
|
In case you are not aware, this is the whole purpose of the Community Led Plan that is currently being formulated by the PC.
It is for the residents of the Parish to have THEIR say in what they want and do not want.
Everyone is welcome to take part if you are from the Parish and it is concerning the Parish.
So.............if you feel you could make a difference,something where you actually will be able to put your ideas forward and they will be listened to, because it is you, the public who form the committees and chair the committees, do think seriously about getting involved.
This subject would come under the Roads, Transport and Parking section and their first meeting is on Monday 26th September in the Kings suite of the Village Hall at 7.30pm
It does not matter if you have not already signed up, or been to the initial meeting, you can still take part, everyone is welcome, just turn up on the night and see what you think.
You really can make a difference.
edited to add time. |
any comments and views listed above are those of myself personally and not as a Parish Councillor, and in no way reflect opinions of the Parish Council or any other professional bodies |
Edited by - patty on 22 Sep 2011 22:42:02 |
|
|
|
BFA
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
410 Posts |
Posted - 22 Sep 2011 : 23:14:55
|
quote:
Originally posted by DEGOO
Drives me potty when I see them on Station Road and the A259 where the cycle paths were put in just for them, not that I don't have sympathy for the poor cyclist you understand!!
Phsyco-paths are fine for potterers, but serious sport cyclists use the roads ... along with many potterers of course!
I came home via this roundabout tonight and coming down station road there was a cyclist on the road, on the wrong side of it and with no lights. Still, I see worse car driving habits all the time.
Anyway, as I was negotiating the roundabout I realised that lights would be a no-goer, it's just not big enough. Roundabouts with lights, be they part or full time, have lights on the roundabout as well as at the approaches; there's just not enough space between junctions for vehicles waiting on red at lights on the roundabout.
|
|
|
|
roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
553 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2011 : 06:09:21
|
| Possibly the alternative option is that which has been discussed on here before: "Dualling the 259 through the Angmering section" |
|
|
|
jammer
Senior Member
172 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2011 : 07:27:49
|
Degoo, you have prompted another issue I have with this particular piece of road.. cycle paths. Sorry guys dont mean to rant but it seems apt.
What is it with the cycle paths round here. From worthing you can cycle pretty much all the way to Shoreham on a cycle path. Round here we have little snatches of 100 / 200m what is that all about. In the case of the cycle path on station road, what a joke... If you are coming home from the station (Following the rules of the road of course) You either have to push your bike all the way along the pavement near where the garage used to be, and then cross the bridge for the privilege of a couple of hundred meters of cyclepath, at the end of which you are forced to cross the road at the busiest pinch point to re-join the road.
Failing that you could ride along the road to the roundabout, mount the curb, cross there and repeat from the bridge onwards.
Of course if you want to add 2 miles onto your journey you could ride up to sainsburies, cross there and cycle through the ever so people friendly ham manor!!!
Cycle paths. dont make me laugh. |
..//.//..//..//.. |
|
|
|
roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
553 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2011 : 08:32:29
|
| There are ""friendly people"" on Ham Manor???????!!!!!!lol |
|
|
|
jammer
Senior Member
172 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2011 : 08:58:22
|
quote:
There are ""friendly people"" on Ham Manor???????!!!!!!lol
That was only a tongue in cheek comment really, no offence intended to Ham Manor residents, however I have seem them manually guarding the roads before :-)
[edited as I hit post before I was finished, and then to correct a typo] |
..//.//..//..//.. |
Edited by - jammer on 23 Sep 2011 09:00:15 |
|
|
|
n/a
deleted
31 Posts |
Posted - 23 Sep 2011 : 23:01:40
|
| I think they "guard the roads" as East Drive is private and all maintainance costs are met by the people that live there. It is not a public road. It used to be a handy short cut to the Angmering School! There are similar roads on the Sea Lane Esate. |
|
|
|
Coastal Fire Systems
New Member
United Kingdom
2 Posts |
Posted - 26 Sep 2011 : 14:32:09
|
| Just to add my bit here. The traffic calming measures that are in place through the village. Help or Hinderance?? My business is based in Dappers Lane and it is pretty much 'run the gauntlet' at any time of the day through these calming measures. |
|
|
|
jammer
Senior Member
172 Posts |
Posted - 27 Sep 2011 : 08:42:22
|
Definite and absolute hindrance IMO.
They are dangerous, poorly placed, and cause drivers to be reckless towards other cars and cyclist with the right of way. They were put in I think to try and coerce people to use the bypass. That hasn't happened as the same amount of traffic seems to come through the village now, just incredibly more dangerously. As none of the many accidents that have happened at these points have been fatal, they do not get added to the stats, therefore they did not happen. IMO it is the single most catastrophic FAIL ever implemented into Angmering. Staion road is now a far more dangerous place to be than ever. |
..//.//..//..//.. |
|
|
|
Pansy
Senior Member
United Kingdom
172 Posts |
Posted - 28 Sep 2011 : 15:11:13
|
| They are an absolute menace and do not slow the traffic down. I totally agree with the above comment. I fear they are here to stay though! |
|
|
|
angmeringpaul
Senior Member
United Kingdom
234 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2011 : 21:23:01
|
The entire traffic situation in Angmering is farsical. The pinch points are dangerous and counter-productive, as are the zig-zag lines taking up the safest parking spaces at schools.
How does it make any sense at all for the speed limit to INCREASE as motorists approach a primary school!? |
|
|
|
roosterbri
Advanced Member
United Kingdom
553 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2011 : 10:57:47
|
Can anybody advise if there has been a change at the roundabout?? I notice the cross hatching from the village side has been worn away and not redone. Is it intentional that it has not been redone????
Because as sure as heck the people from the west block the way across whereas before they generally took notice of the hatching. |
|
|
| |
Topic |
|
Topic Locked
